I'd love to see a good list of recommendations and serious evaluation of just how hard or easy it is to get into a safe. I've heard that with a good electric saw, many safes can be cut into very rapidly.
I meant to include that in my comment to Rebecca. You can spend a lot of time worrying about the lock, but if it is not securely mounted to the floor, it can be easily knocked over and entry through the back is usually easier than through the front. Otherwise, drilling the lock or sawing through the sides may prove easy as well. It's like the locks on your front door - it's meant to keep honest people out. With the right tools and enough time, a safe can be compromised just as can your front door.
Exactly! A safe is not foolproof, it's a deterrent. Thus multiple safes require extra time to rob. Make the thief work harder. I also like the idea of encasing the safe into a concrete structure so that it would require both smashing through the concrete and penetrating the metal walls of the safe.
If encasing in a concrete structure is an option, it is definitely added security. I'm sure we'd all love to have a bank vault in our homes, but not everyone can afford it, nor does everyone have the space to accommodate such a structure.
We purposely did not get any digital safes. Ours are all keyed or tumbler locks. I expect the keyed ones wouldn’t be to hard to get into but that tumbler lock on the big guy is complicated. Not your typical locker lock. When you know it it’s still easy to screw it up. None are Liberty safes. I went down and checked. Will pass this info on if we discover any friends with Liberty safes though.
I debated whether to have a digital or mechanical lock. I'm still torn. Digital can provide quicker access, but it has limitations (battery life, fat-fingering or forgetting your code). Key locks are fairly quick (if you're not shaking too much to insert the key), but they require quick access to the key (which can be lost, or easily obtained by law enforcement if they have a search warrant). Combination locks are the slowest of the three, but perhaps the most secure. Like digital locks, they suffer from the potential to forget your combination - and that would be far harder to recover and reset than a digital lock. Like key locks, they suffer from the effects of nervous fingers which could easily turn past the correct numbers in either direction when under duress. There certainly is no perfect solution (I definitely wouldn't want a biometric lock on my safe), but maybe a combination of two of the three prevalent options would be best. I have considered converting mine to a mechanical lock, but have yet to research or make the change.
At least after this, Liberty can't give away my code.
One thing I recommend is to use multiple safes.
I'd love to see a good list of recommendations and serious evaluation of just how hard or easy it is to get into a safe. I've heard that with a good electric saw, many safes can be cut into very rapidly.
I meant to include that in my comment to Rebecca. You can spend a lot of time worrying about the lock, but if it is not securely mounted to the floor, it can be easily knocked over and entry through the back is usually easier than through the front. Otherwise, drilling the lock or sawing through the sides may prove easy as well. It's like the locks on your front door - it's meant to keep honest people out. With the right tools and enough time, a safe can be compromised just as can your front door.
Exactly! A safe is not foolproof, it's a deterrent. Thus multiple safes require extra time to rob. Make the thief work harder. I also like the idea of encasing the safe into a concrete structure so that it would require both smashing through the concrete and penetrating the metal walls of the safe.
If encasing in a concrete structure is an option, it is definitely added security. I'm sure we'd all love to have a bank vault in our homes, but not everyone can afford it, nor does everyone have the space to accommodate such a structure.
Yes, all such ideas have to be modified and adapted to whatever type of housing you have. Apartment dwellers are very limited!
We purposely did not get any digital safes. Ours are all keyed or tumbler locks. I expect the keyed ones wouldn’t be to hard to get into but that tumbler lock on the big guy is complicated. Not your typical locker lock. When you know it it’s still easy to screw it up. None are Liberty safes. I went down and checked. Will pass this info on if we discover any friends with Liberty safes though.
I debated whether to have a digital or mechanical lock. I'm still torn. Digital can provide quicker access, but it has limitations (battery life, fat-fingering or forgetting your code). Key locks are fairly quick (if you're not shaking too much to insert the key), but they require quick access to the key (which can be lost, or easily obtained by law enforcement if they have a search warrant). Combination locks are the slowest of the three, but perhaps the most secure. Like digital locks, they suffer from the potential to forget your combination - and that would be far harder to recover and reset than a digital lock. Like key locks, they suffer from the effects of nervous fingers which could easily turn past the correct numbers in either direction when under duress. There certainly is no perfect solution (I definitely wouldn't want a biometric lock on my safe), but maybe a combination of two of the three prevalent options would be best. I have considered converting mine to a mechanical lock, but have yet to research or make the change.
At least after this, Liberty can't give away my code.
digital = NOPE