Well, you know my answer! Government has no business at all dictating what goes into my body or not!
Some of us have been countering the fluoride poisoning for a long time by supplementing with iodine and using water purifiers.
Interesting timing as my city just sent out a letter letting us know we are getting radon poisoning from our water but "don't worry, it's not an emergency".
We've been "fluoride free" for some time. Imagine if the obesity problem in America could be traced not just to the purchase and consumption of highly-processed "food" products, but to metabolic dysfunction caused by fluoride and other chemical exposures? Fluoride isn't the only exposure government foists upon us without our consent either, but it's a perfect example.
What about the acetylcholinesterase (AChE) inhibitors to which they expose us? They are neurotoxic. But they're present in many pesticides, including....mosquito spray. Do you live in an area where, during "mosquito season", trucks roll through during the night once or twice week spraying? If so, you're exposed. What if you want to grow an organic garden in your backyard? Sorry, government says it gets sprayed. Remember the uproar over Zika and its hand in causing microcephaly? What if people were to find out that it was more likely the AChE inhibitors from mosquito spray getting into the water supply?
Government should NOT be making these decisions for us. It should be based on individual choice. That is the essence of liberty, and government making these decisions has an impact on everyone's health.
I grew up just outside the Everglades. The garbage trucks fogged as they picked up trash. So the route got fogged once a week. We fogged with our garden tractors in the orange trees and bananas in addition. I think back then it was DDT and there wasn’t a lot of evidence it was hurting people but they outlawed it because eagles were laying soft shell eggs. I imagine it wasn’t good for us but I believe it was a lot less toxic than all the crap we’re exposed to now. Mosquitos didn’t bite me much never have. Or I just don’t welt from a bite. I think it was from drinking well water heavy in sulfur in south FL.
Mosquito spraying is an interesting issue. We certainly don't want mosquitos but city wide treatment is going to be far more effective than each individual doing something or not.
Where I live, they don't use trucks but as I understand it they drop pellets from helicopters. This is also a case where it isn't universal, we have the option of moving to somewhere that they don't treat for mosquitos. Not ideal, but better than not having an option at all.
We may have to find a "happy medium" to balance choices, at the very least it's best if these decisions are made on a local level. The higher up in government the worse the tyranny is.
Regardless of my "preference," the question remains, should/does government have authority to violate your liberty by forcing such an intervention upon you? If so, where does that authority end? If, as you say, they have no right to dictate what goes into your body, you should *not* be ok with them spraying neuro-toxic chemicals into the air for all to breath, and where it will fall on every plant within a wide range as the aerosol spreads.
This is the tricky part. Where do we draw that line? I'm inclined to say we err on the side of freedom. Government simply doesn't have any authority to impose any sort of intervention on us (as individuals).
However we might have regulations and standards such that a factory can not dump more than "X" amount of "some chemical" into a river per day.
I maintain an "organic" lawn myself. Sure it looks rather "ratty" but the bunnies and deer can eat healthy grass. But I don't think I can impose my views on my neighbors who might choose to use herbicides and pesticides.
An obvious example to me would be if the government decided it wanted to add valium to the water because they want "happier people". Nope! No way, not permitted at all.
Mosquito control is trickier. If we assume that mosquitos spread diseases then we have to balance out the harm from suppressing them vs letting nature take it's course. (my vote is for nature)
My vote will always be for nature and for erring on the side of liberty. I think the same goes for mosquito control. If people are worried about mosquitoes spreading disease, they can use repellant on themselves or prophylactics for the diseases. Does the government expose everyone to ivermectin to avoid everyone's pets contracting heartworm from mosquito bites? Should they? No.
Would you be ok with the government spreading rat poison throughout your neighborhood if they claimed there was a rat infestation? Or would you rather each individual decide how to deal with rats that invade their personal property? Who gets to decide who and what is exposed to the rat poison?
Your example of the factory is pertinent, because it is the exact *opposite*. That is government stepping in to ensure a company does not infringe on your right to be free from someone else exposing you to toxicity. It goes to the idea that your rights end at your neighbors' nose (and vice versa), and that the government exists to protect those rights, not infringe upon them.
Government doesn't exist to prevent us from disease or pestilence - it exists to protect our rights from those who would trample them and from enemies (foreign or domestic).
Another one that annoys me is the regulation to "vaccinate" all pets against rabies. Really? Do I really have to give my indoor cat, who will have no contact at all with another animal, a shot?
I have a cousin that lives in a place where the HOA "demands" that each resident use specific lawncare products, like herbicides, pesticides, and fertilizers whether they are actually needed or not, or even if you WANTED to or not. I personally vote for the NATURAL gardening over and kind of chemical crap ANY day. Ultimately, with vegetables at least, those chemicals will end up in your body. I have enough crap going on that I don't need to add to it. LOL
HOAs are far too often "evil" tyrant mini governments! Perhaps HOAs need a constitution that limits their powers and preserves the rights of the individual?
I couldn't see any point to doing personal gardening that wasn't organic! It's kind of like the whole point of gardening: to produce some healthy food for yourself! If I want factory food, I'll drive to the store and buy cheap crap.
I’ve become seriously allergic to fluoride. I now use a very expensive toothpaste that doesn’t have fluoride. For most of my life toothpaste has made me choke and gag. I mostly have used baking soda and peroxide. That’s what we brushed with as a kid. I had an asthma event after having my teeth polished at a cleaning last year so I stay clear of fluoride now all together. I always thought it was the chlorine on city water giving me a sore throat but it might have been the fluoride all along. I don’t drink city water and haven’t for over 40 years. My sister has been a city girl since she left home so on city water since about 15. She has Hashimoto's disease. There is no history of thyroid problems in my family so it was weird for her to get diagnosed with this about 20 years ago.
Is it just by ingestion that your allergy is exacerbated, or is it a contact allergy as well? You may even be inhaling fluoride in a hot shower when you breath the water vapor. It is insidious that government feels they have the right or authority to do this to people with any chemical of any sort.
I am very sorry for your allergy and for your sister's Hashimoto's. Many may not be, but I am familiar with diseases such as Hashimoto's, and they are not always easy to live with.
It was a throat irritation so contact like if I ate a walnut. It set my asthma off for several weeks so ingestion too. Had to do a course of prednisone. We have a well. Haven’t been on city water in 40 years. I grew up rural and only lived on city water for about 10 years of my life. I’ve had asthma to some level since I had measles at 7 years old. Was bad for a few years after measles and then came on again after 50. I thank my mother for smoking like chimney while she was pregnant and my father for further exposure every time I was trapped in a car with him going somewhere.
You can make your own toothpaste using food-grade bentonite, baking soda, and a touch of hydrogen peroxide. OR, chew on a sassafras root......that's what people used to do and it was effective
So, as former FDNY, this is something that is quite close to my heart, in a bad way. The City of New York FORCED us to be vaccinated. Yes, I said FORCED. If I wasn’t vaccinated, my choices were leave voluntarily or be ultimately fired. We now know through independent reporting, that the vaccines are nothing, but poison, causing more health issues than the disease itself. (Some would blame President Trump for this, but he never advocated for a mandate. The cost of doing nothing was arguably greater. Yes, I know it was done by executive fiat and I don’t agree with it either, but doing nothing was not an option in the court of public opinion. The people were screaming for tyranny and they got it. Now many complain, but I digress) All the actual medical professionals who were sounding the alarm bells were roundly ridiculed and cancelled. The difference between the truth and a conspiracy theory? 2 years. As for the government placing harmful chemicals in everything we eat and drink for our own good is concerned, I say this. As someone who had covid badly, because, as a result of my job and performing CPR on dozens of individuals in early 2020, I recovered and have more resistance to it than anyone who was vaxxed without getting sick first, full stop. I will never get another flu vax, shingles, anything. Because I do not trust for one second that by doing so, I will unwittingly be injected with something I never intended to be. My trust is pharmaceutical companies and government, although low before 2020, is totally gone. I only speak for myself and in no way advocate for telling anyone else what they should or should not do for themselves. The government has become a bloated behemoth that has crowned itself king of all that is good, to protect us from ourselves. That is abhorrent. The role of government was set with high guardrails at the founding, which have since been all but totally smashed because too many of us have blind faith in it “doing the right thing”.
We have had a whole house water filtration system since we moved into this house 16 years ago. It is not the most fancy but the filters DO block fluoride, I made sure of that. It certainly has improved the TASTE of the water. And I SWEAR is -feels- better on my skin when showering or just washing my hands.
I am ALWAYS in favor of government keeping their noses out of my business, especially my MOUTH. LOL But the government was NEVER given ANY authority do to a vast number of things they ARE doing at this point.
This intrusion is just one more reason We the People need to FORCE a return to the ORIGINAL blueprint given to us by our founding fathers. The sad thing is, many in todays America have been conditioned to believe it IS governments 'job' to "take care of us" which is absolute BS to me. I am perfectly capable of taking care of myself.
A group of potters came up with phenomenal ingenuity to help isolated places in Mexico purify their water. It is a large 2-part water container with the top half being the filtering mechanism and settling nicely into the actual containment vessel, underneath. I am wiring my kiln for sound, very soon, and I would really like to explore this concept.
The clay for the top half has a "base" or vessel floor that is wedged in with pearlite or vermiculite (can't remember which - whichever is from a volcano). This creates tiny pockets of air throughout the clay after the initial firing to make the bisque ware. Then both halves are glazed and fired with the top half being glazed ONLY on the exterior so that there would be no interference with the interior of the filtering mechanism.
After glaze firing, the filtering half would be submerged in colloidal silver - only once. The colloidal silver AND the "charcoal" created by firing off the vermiculite/pearlite would create a virus-and-bacteria-free source of water collected in the bottom half.
My response to the pflouride issue is ........well..........it's Lent, so I can't really type what I have an impulse to.
Well, you know my answer! Government has no business at all dictating what goes into my body or not!
Some of us have been countering the fluoride poisoning for a long time by supplementing with iodine and using water purifiers.
Interesting timing as my city just sent out a letter letting us know we are getting radon poisoning from our water but "don't worry, it's not an emergency".
We've been "fluoride free" for some time. Imagine if the obesity problem in America could be traced not just to the purchase and consumption of highly-processed "food" products, but to metabolic dysfunction caused by fluoride and other chemical exposures? Fluoride isn't the only exposure government foists upon us without our consent either, but it's a perfect example.
What about the acetylcholinesterase (AChE) inhibitors to which they expose us? They are neurotoxic. But they're present in many pesticides, including....mosquito spray. Do you live in an area where, during "mosquito season", trucks roll through during the night once or twice week spraying? If so, you're exposed. What if you want to grow an organic garden in your backyard? Sorry, government says it gets sprayed. Remember the uproar over Zika and its hand in causing microcephaly? What if people were to find out that it was more likely the AChE inhibitors from mosquito spray getting into the water supply?
Government should NOT be making these decisions for us. It should be based on individual choice. That is the essence of liberty, and government making these decisions has an impact on everyone's health.
I grew up just outside the Everglades. The garbage trucks fogged as they picked up trash. So the route got fogged once a week. We fogged with our garden tractors in the orange trees and bananas in addition. I think back then it was DDT and there wasn’t a lot of evidence it was hurting people but they outlawed it because eagles were laying soft shell eggs. I imagine it wasn’t good for us but I believe it was a lot less toxic than all the crap we’re exposed to now. Mosquitos didn’t bite me much never have. Or I just don’t welt from a bite. I think it was from drinking well water heavy in sulfur in south FL.
DDT apparently is less toxic than people once thought.
Yes. And. Millions of children in 3rd world countries have died because of it ban.
You mean, I can blame FLOURIDE on my obesity????? Well, that's a relief!
Mosquito spraying is an interesting issue. We certainly don't want mosquitos but city wide treatment is going to be far more effective than each individual doing something or not.
Where I live, they don't use trucks but as I understand it they drop pellets from helicopters. This is also a case where it isn't universal, we have the option of moving to somewhere that they don't treat for mosquitos. Not ideal, but better than not having an option at all.
We may have to find a "happy medium" to balance choices, at the very least it's best if these decisions are made on a local level. The higher up in government the worse the tyranny is.
Regardless of my "preference," the question remains, should/does government have authority to violate your liberty by forcing such an intervention upon you? If so, where does that authority end? If, as you say, they have no right to dictate what goes into your body, you should *not* be ok with them spraying neuro-toxic chemicals into the air for all to breath, and where it will fall on every plant within a wide range as the aerosol spreads.
This is the tricky part. Where do we draw that line? I'm inclined to say we err on the side of freedom. Government simply doesn't have any authority to impose any sort of intervention on us (as individuals).
However we might have regulations and standards such that a factory can not dump more than "X" amount of "some chemical" into a river per day.
I maintain an "organic" lawn myself. Sure it looks rather "ratty" but the bunnies and deer can eat healthy grass. But I don't think I can impose my views on my neighbors who might choose to use herbicides and pesticides.
An obvious example to me would be if the government decided it wanted to add valium to the water because they want "happier people". Nope! No way, not permitted at all.
Mosquito control is trickier. If we assume that mosquitos spread diseases then we have to balance out the harm from suppressing them vs letting nature take it's course. (my vote is for nature)
My vote will always be for nature and for erring on the side of liberty. I think the same goes for mosquito control. If people are worried about mosquitoes spreading disease, they can use repellant on themselves or prophylactics for the diseases. Does the government expose everyone to ivermectin to avoid everyone's pets contracting heartworm from mosquito bites? Should they? No.
Would you be ok with the government spreading rat poison throughout your neighborhood if they claimed there was a rat infestation? Or would you rather each individual decide how to deal with rats that invade their personal property? Who gets to decide who and what is exposed to the rat poison?
Your example of the factory is pertinent, because it is the exact *opposite*. That is government stepping in to ensure a company does not infringe on your right to be free from someone else exposing you to toxicity. It goes to the idea that your rights end at your neighbors' nose (and vice versa), and that the government exists to protect those rights, not infringe upon them.
Government doesn't exist to prevent us from disease or pestilence - it exists to protect our rights from those who would trample them and from enemies (foreign or domestic).
Agreed 100%.
Another one that annoys me is the regulation to "vaccinate" all pets against rabies. Really? Do I really have to give my indoor cat, who will have no contact at all with another animal, a shot?
I have a cousin that lives in a place where the HOA "demands" that each resident use specific lawncare products, like herbicides, pesticides, and fertilizers whether they are actually needed or not, or even if you WANTED to or not. I personally vote for the NATURAL gardening over and kind of chemical crap ANY day. Ultimately, with vegetables at least, those chemicals will end up in your body. I have enough crap going on that I don't need to add to it. LOL
HOAs are far too often "evil" tyrant mini governments! Perhaps HOAs need a constitution that limits their powers and preserves the rights of the individual?
I couldn't see any point to doing personal gardening that wasn't organic! It's kind of like the whole point of gardening: to produce some healthy food for yourself! If I want factory food, I'll drive to the store and buy cheap crap.
I'd rather deal with mosquito bites than be exposed to the toxicity of the pesticide.
I’ve become seriously allergic to fluoride. I now use a very expensive toothpaste that doesn’t have fluoride. For most of my life toothpaste has made me choke and gag. I mostly have used baking soda and peroxide. That’s what we brushed with as a kid. I had an asthma event after having my teeth polished at a cleaning last year so I stay clear of fluoride now all together. I always thought it was the chlorine on city water giving me a sore throat but it might have been the fluoride all along. I don’t drink city water and haven’t for over 40 years. My sister has been a city girl since she left home so on city water since about 15. She has Hashimoto's disease. There is no history of thyroid problems in my family so it was weird for her to get diagnosed with this about 20 years ago.
Is it just by ingestion that your allergy is exacerbated, or is it a contact allergy as well? You may even be inhaling fluoride in a hot shower when you breath the water vapor. It is insidious that government feels they have the right or authority to do this to people with any chemical of any sort.
I am very sorry for your allergy and for your sister's Hashimoto's. Many may not be, but I am familiar with diseases such as Hashimoto's, and they are not always easy to live with.
It was a throat irritation so contact like if I ate a walnut. It set my asthma off for several weeks so ingestion too. Had to do a course of prednisone. We have a well. Haven’t been on city water in 40 years. I grew up rural and only lived on city water for about 10 years of my life. I’ve had asthma to some level since I had measles at 7 years old. Was bad for a few years after measles and then came on again after 50. I thank my mother for smoking like chimney while she was pregnant and my father for further exposure every time I was trapped in a car with him going somewhere.
So, you had the typical 60s/70s parents as well. I feel your pain.
You can make your own toothpaste using food-grade bentonite, baking soda, and a touch of hydrogen peroxide. OR, chew on a sassafras root......that's what people used to do and it was effective
Hydroxyapatite-based and/or xylitol-based toothpastes are also effective and far safer than fluoride.
So, as former FDNY, this is something that is quite close to my heart, in a bad way. The City of New York FORCED us to be vaccinated. Yes, I said FORCED. If I wasn’t vaccinated, my choices were leave voluntarily or be ultimately fired. We now know through independent reporting, that the vaccines are nothing, but poison, causing more health issues than the disease itself. (Some would blame President Trump for this, but he never advocated for a mandate. The cost of doing nothing was arguably greater. Yes, I know it was done by executive fiat and I don’t agree with it either, but doing nothing was not an option in the court of public opinion. The people were screaming for tyranny and they got it. Now many complain, but I digress) All the actual medical professionals who were sounding the alarm bells were roundly ridiculed and cancelled. The difference between the truth and a conspiracy theory? 2 years. As for the government placing harmful chemicals in everything we eat and drink for our own good is concerned, I say this. As someone who had covid badly, because, as a result of my job and performing CPR on dozens of individuals in early 2020, I recovered and have more resistance to it than anyone who was vaxxed without getting sick first, full stop. I will never get another flu vax, shingles, anything. Because I do not trust for one second that by doing so, I will unwittingly be injected with something I never intended to be. My trust is pharmaceutical companies and government, although low before 2020, is totally gone. I only speak for myself and in no way advocate for telling anyone else what they should or should not do for themselves. The government has become a bloated behemoth that has crowned itself king of all that is good, to protect us from ourselves. That is abhorrent. The role of government was set with high guardrails at the founding, which have since been all but totally smashed because too many of us have blind faith in it “doing the right thing”.
Pig Pharma
We have had a whole house water filtration system since we moved into this house 16 years ago. It is not the most fancy but the filters DO block fluoride, I made sure of that. It certainly has improved the TASTE of the water. And I SWEAR is -feels- better on my skin when showering or just washing my hands.
I am ALWAYS in favor of government keeping their noses out of my business, especially my MOUTH. LOL But the government was NEVER given ANY authority do to a vast number of things they ARE doing at this point.
This intrusion is just one more reason We the People need to FORCE a return to the ORIGINAL blueprint given to us by our founding fathers. The sad thing is, many in todays America have been conditioned to believe it IS governments 'job' to "take care of us" which is absolute BS to me. I am perfectly capable of taking care of myself.
Nope. No. Nein. Nyet. Non.
A group of potters came up with phenomenal ingenuity to help isolated places in Mexico purify their water. It is a large 2-part water container with the top half being the filtering mechanism and settling nicely into the actual containment vessel, underneath. I am wiring my kiln for sound, very soon, and I would really like to explore this concept.
The clay for the top half has a "base" or vessel floor that is wedged in with pearlite or vermiculite (can't remember which - whichever is from a volcano). This creates tiny pockets of air throughout the clay after the initial firing to make the bisque ware. Then both halves are glazed and fired with the top half being glazed ONLY on the exterior so that there would be no interference with the interior of the filtering mechanism.
After glaze firing, the filtering half would be submerged in colloidal silver - only once. The colloidal silver AND the "charcoal" created by firing off the vermiculite/pearlite would create a virus-and-bacteria-free source of water collected in the bottom half.
My response to the pflouride issue is ........well..........it's Lent, so I can't really type what I have an impulse to.