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Lisa Emm's avatar

Being a potter myself, this has nearly always been in the back of my mind whenever I was doing projects or instructing. I once had a church group come to the studio to experience throwing on the wheel. After 2 hours of grueling effort, everyone came up with one wonky pot. So, after cleaning up, we sat down to talk about the effort that it takes and how it applies to our own growth. "But you make it look so easy...." I quickly pointed out that I had been a potter for years and that I still had spectacular fails on occasion. It's not about the perfection but the constant effort to be better than I was yesterday.

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Dan Bass's avatar

This puts a lot into perspective of humanity. For instance, how can evil root itself into someone so deeply that they rape and murder freely? How do we fight other nations wars in names of our liberty?

Who’s to say it isn’t part of Gods will? He brought Job back up through Enduring pain. There’s a lot here to digest. But my personal beliefs come to similar conclusions.

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MichaelH: Storyteller's avatar

The ONE thing that kept going through my mind centered on creation and Adam and Eve in the Garden. They were instructed to NOT eat of the tree of knowledge which indicates they were given a choice in the matter. BUT, of course God KNEW already that Eve was going to listen to the forked tonged devil and eat of the fruit and then persuade Adam to do the same.

With your article and the passages you have brought up, it makes me wonder if they truly DID have a choice in the matter. Or did God put that into their make-up in *their molding?

Of course, Original Sin is the thing that popped into my head as I was reading. Because of the sin of Adam, for listening to Eve, and Eve for listening to the snake, all humans that came after were BORN SINNERS.

Was this truly by design OR was it simply the RESULT and God being all knowing He saw what was to be before any of it happened?

And the WHOLE PURPOSE behind all of this is for people to have FAITH and to believe in HIM. Thus the True Believers are the ones given His mercy.

WOOOWZERS! My brain is throbbing after all of that! HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME THINK! 🤣

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Themomh's avatar

Oh dear. I did comment. Then I became subscribed. Again, and... my dissertation is gone. Can I re-unscramble my brain enough to recall what I said & asked?

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