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John Wright's avatar

We see this very typical "leftist" comment of "cut care for those who most need it so the wealthiest few could get tax cuts".

However I content that this emotional appeal doesn't hold water. Is improving government efficiency cutting care? Most anyone that has dealt with the medicare / medical system should understand that it robs the poor and enriches the wealthy. So would "cutting" it actually harm those who need care and benefit the wealthy? Or is that actually what our status quo does?

Also let's get specific on tax cuts rather than throwing around emotional phrases. It's common knowledge that much of the wealth evades the tax system while the middle class bears the brunt of the tax system burden.

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James Moore's avatar

And the wealthy “evade taxes” by the simple fact of having so much gross income that they can evade the effect of taxes. Even if both rich and poor paid 50% of their income in tax that would leave someone earning 30,000 a LOT worse off than someone earning 3,000,000

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Lisa Emm's avatar

TLDR:

When people - all people - are given things in which they have no personal investment, they often don't care deeply about those things.

An example of this is gifting someone with a piece of my art or pottery. Yeah, they might appreciate the gift, but the gift isn't "dear" to them because it cost them nothing.

A family had a house fire about 12 years ago. They had no insurance and lost everything. Our community gathered enough donations to build these people a brand new house. Within a year, there were garbage bags and worn truck tires in the yard and the window blinds were torn to pieces. These people didn't care.

Helping people in poverty or who are in trouble is a good thing. Setting people up with an endless government teat makes them lazy and (worse) causes them to feel entitled. There's a world of difference.

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John Wright's avatar

The same thing occurs in healthcare. If I take care of someone at low or no cost they don't value that, they will go to an MD and spend massive amounts of money (via the insurance scam system) for advice that just keeps them sicker longer.

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MichaelH: Storyteller's avatar

People INCESSANTLY interpret Scriptures to fit whatever narrative it is they want pushed. They fail to read the verse(s) IN CONTEXT, cherry picking the line(s) that fall in line with THEIR agenda, NOT with CHRIST'S intentions. The want so desperately to be right that they manipulate the Word of God to woo the masses to their cause. Nothing more than griffters looking to make a score off of the unsuspecting and easily swayed.

I TOTALLY agree with being charitable, BUT I -ALWAYS- give locally when I donate. I give to those who live closest to me. THAT is what i believe we have been instructed to do by Christ. And those donations are NEVER forced. I give FREELY when I am ABLE. Not because some bureaucratic JACKASS told me to do on THEIR time line whether I can afford it or not.

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James Moore's avatar

Yep, that commenter from X doesn’t understand that capitalism isn’t about concentration of wealth and power amongst the elite (although that tends to be the result), but simply about VOLUNTARY transactions. Leftist hate that though because it’s often not what THEY want…

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Kyle's avatar

I have spent the past 25+ years teaching elementary age kids, and occasionally teens and adults, the Biblical giving. I have not focused solely on tithing, which is a Hebrew Bible concept that was actually more than just the 1/10th tied to the word, but also on the passages in the Book of Acts that teach "extravagant giving." And you are correct that it was an individual response to needs as each saw. Even Annanias and Saphira had every right to keep what they sold and do with as they pleased, but they tried to deceive and lie about it in order to "show their generosity," false as it was, for what amounted to human praise and status.

As such, we have spent the past 20+ years teaching people to give without compulsion, to give generously, and to give expecting nothing else in return. We have never taught that it is the government's place to "force charity" upon anyone, because that is nothing more than theft no matter who receives the benefits of said thievery or takes from those that have chosen not to give.

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chad's avatar

Amen!

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